I am not sure if this message will be received, but I want to share some logical connections interpreted from the bible that are likely incorrect. I am somewhere on the middle line between Judaism and Catholicism, or I should say Christianity since Catholicism is the harlot I’ll discuss in another chapter.
Anyways, I continue to read and hear that Cain’s descendant’s died in the great flood, however there is no proof ALL of Cain’s bloodline was eliminated with the flood, and just to point out… all of Noah’s bloodline that was not on the ark also perished in the flood.
In Genesis 4, we are taught about Cain:
- His interaction with God
- His actions
- How he would survive
- Where he lived
- Cain’s accomplishments
- Cain’s descendants
- and their accomplishments
That is it! It is a short chapter. But why is it in the Bible? ]
If one truly believes YHWH knows the beginning and the end, one must realize Cain’s existence was not another thing that went wrong requiring elimination. Cain’s bloodline had a purpose. Cain was not a mistake, and Cain’s bloodline still exists today.
Cain’s existence went exactly as planned.
To start, Cain was delivered as a MAN.
“And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.” Genesis 4:1
Meaning Cain had a prior existence. We also learn from birth that Cain’s was of his own seed, I will refer to as the bad seed. Seth was of a new seed.
“And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me another seed instead of Abel, whom Cain slew.” Genesis 4:25
The word seed is very important.
To further emphasize that Cain was of a different lineage, YHWH created Adam in His image and His likeness.
And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. Genesis 1:26
God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. Genesis 1:27
Seth born as a SON, not a MAN to Adam was also created in Adam’s likeness and image.
“And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, and after his image; and called his name Seth:” Genesis 5:3
Why was not Adam not delivered a son, in his likeness and image with his first born? or 2nd?
The answer should be obvious, but is never discussed. Cain was a “punishment”.
Let’s start with Able… it’s easy to understand.
Since we learn nothing about Able other than he was a Sheppard and brought an offering to the Lord that was respected, one can only assume he was a sacrifice. Why was he a sacrifice? Able’s sole purpose was to be murdered by Cain… he was a sacrifice so Adam and Eve can feel the pain and sorrow of losing something they loved in the most horrific way, and most likely to harden their heart against Cain.
One might speculate Able had making up to do and was allowed an opportunity to do his best to honor God. Who knows? Remember, YHWH knows all of us before we lived on this Earth, so it’s possible Able had a debt to pay. But it doesn’t matter, his existence (for our knowledge) was only to punish Adam and Eve with feelings of painful sorrow, and loss.
Through all of Adam and Eve’s generations, we do not learn of any accomplishments until Noah, who may have been laughed at for hundreds of years while building a huge ark on land.
So let’s look closer at what we know about Cain “The Punisher”.
Remember YHWH knows all of us before we lived on this Earth, and specifically Cain was delivered as a MAN. Specifically to punish Adam and Eve by killing Able. YHWH had a relationship with Cain that we do not fully understand but we know God knew Cain would kill Able, because we have learned Adam’s first son was actually Seth.
So what happened to Cain? Let’s review
1) God curses the ground with thorns and needles which is going to make Adam sweat (one can assume of hard work in the heat).
And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; Genesis 3:17 Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; Genesis 3:18 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return. Genesis 3:19
2) Adam is punished and tasked with tilling the land
“Therefore the Lord God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.” Genesis 3:23
3) Cain is delivered as a man
“And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord. “Genesis 4:1
4) Cain takes over Adam’s punishment and becomes tiller of the ground when Able is born.
“And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.” Genesis 4:2
So to recap, Adam is given a punishment to till the ground, however in 10 sentences we learn that Adam passed this punishment to Cain. Then we learn of an offering to YHWH: “And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.” Genesis 4:3
“And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:” Genesis 4:4
5) Cain becomes wroth: full of wrath, to be furious
“But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.” Genesis 4:5
6) God talks to Cain… he says 5 things.
“And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?” Genesis 4:5
The equivalent of today’s “You mad bro”? It triggers people.
“If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door.
And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.” Genesis 4:6
7) Cain kills Able in the next sentence.
“And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.” Genesis 4:8
Did YHWH egg Cain on to get Cain to fulfill his purpose?
8) Cain lies and is disrespectful.
“And the Lord said unto Cain, Where is Abel thy brother? And he said, I know not: Am I my brother’s keeper?”
Cain has had these qualities:
- Angry and furious
- Disrespectful
- Liar
- Murderer
But yet when Cain said his punishment was to great to bear, the Lord promised to protect him:
“And the Lord said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the Lord set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him. Genesis 4:15
Why would Cain, a furious and angry, disrespectful murder and liar be protected? I will ask again, Why would Cain, a furious and angry, disrespectful murder and liar be protected?
There is NO acceptable reason other than to populate the earth with a bad seed.
We know Seth is a different seed free of sin, in likeness and image of Adam who is of YHWH’s likeness and image.
This unfortunately confuses many and allows non-believers to come to the wrong conclusion, as Cain’s descendant Lamech decides it is okay to have more than one wife and commits multiple murders, and believes he will be avenged seventy and 7 fold… more than Cain.
“And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt.” Genesis 4:23
“If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.” Genesis 4:24
Cain’s Lamech now possesses the following traits through lineage:
- Furious and Angry
- Disrespectful
- Liar
- Murderer
- Multiple wives,
- Believes he will be blessed for murdering others and commits multiple murders.
It is important to understand and recognize these traits. A people who believes lying is acceptable at times, murder is acceptable and not only accepted but one is rewarded in heaven or protected by God, etc.
You should have already figured out the people I describe.
So HOW can this be? The Bible does not specifically say anything about what happens to Cain’s descendants.
We know Cain lived east of Eden. I will go into the significance of East of Eden in another chapter.
And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. Genesis 4:16
Cain’s descendants contributions to the world:
- Cain built a city naming it Enoch after his son,
- his descendants made tents to dwell in and had cattle (Jabal),
- made instruments to make music (Jubal)
- and was able to make/teach how to make things including weapons of iron and brass. (Tubalcain)
- “And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.” Genesis 4:17
- “And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle.” Genesis 4:20
- “And his brother’s name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ.” Genesis 4:21
- “And Zillah, she also bare Tubal-Cain, an instructor of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubal-Cain was Naamah.” Genesis 4:22
This is all we know for sure from today’s Bible. (sort of)
At this point I ask you reaffirm your belief that everything in the Bible has a reason. Nothing is rhetoric.
- Genesis 4 is so we can learn that an evil seed thru the lineage of Cain’s created all these things for us to “want”.
- The behavior of murder, lying, multiple wives, and the belief that multiple killings is rewarded needs to be noted because the Bible has always been warning us.
- Why does the lineage end with Naamah?
Hebrew-Judaism Reference
Naamah comes from the Hebrew root n’m, which means “to be pleasant” or “lovely” (compare Naomi); but the same stem can mean “to sing,” which would make her the ancestral singer.
The early Jewish midrash Genesis Rabba (23.3) identifies this Naamah (the daughter of Lamech and sister of Tubal-cain) as the wife of Noah (see Rashi’s commentary on Genesis 4:22), while some Jewish traditions associate her with singing. It would make sense she would be a singer since it was her half-brothers inventing the instruments.
According to Jewish Ribbinic Liturature, Naamah was Noah’s wife; as her name indicates, her actions were pleasing (ne’imim—Gen. Rabbah 23:3). According to another view, however, she acted improperly, for she beat on a drum and drew people to engage in idolatry, and her musical activity increased corruption among people.
Other writings describe Naamah’s role as Noah’s wife and helpmate as well as an obedient and capable servant of God. Her contributions are given great prominence as she is shown gathering seeds from every plant on the land and tending them in a garden on the ark so that they may eventually be replanted on the newly-cleansed earth.
The Genesis Rabba midrash lists Naamah, the daughter of Lamech and sister of Tubal-Cain, as the wife of Noah,[9] as does the 11th-century Jewish commentator Rashi in his commentary on Genesis 4:22.
Sefer haYashar (ספר הישר) is a medieval Hebrew midrash, also known as the Toledot Adam and Divrei haYamim heArukh. The Hebrew title “Sefer haYashar” might be translated as the “Book of the Correct Record”. In the medieval midrash Book of Jasher, the name of Noah’s wife is said to be Naamah, daughter of Enoch.[10
If Naamah was Noah’s wife and then the flood occurred, it would make sense why her name is mentioned as the last of Cain’s seed. Let’s look at Noah…
“And he called his name Noah, saying, This same shall comfort us concerning our work and toil of our hands, because of the ground which the Lord hath cursed.” Genesis 5-29
“But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord.” Genesis 6-8
“These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.” Genesis 6-9
It makes sense Noah meaning “comfort” would be given Naamah as his wife because she was pleasant & lovely, actions were pleasing, and blessed with an angelic voice. AKA The fairest in the land.
To summarize, It is likely that Cain’s seed persevered on Noah’s ark by means of Noah’s wife Naamah:
- Naamah is In the Bible for some significance.
- Naamah is the last of Cain’s descendant’s.
- A perfect man deserves a pleasing and pleasant, lovely lady with a lovely voice.
- The perfect mixture to allow for good or evil to arise from all setting up the ultimate harvest.
“Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. Matthew 13:30
Is there anything else that tells us Cain’s Descendants exist, and are alive and well because of the 50/50 seed from Noah and Naamah?
Some believe in a hidden prophecy in Genesis 5 through the names of Adams lineage.
- Adam Man
- Seth Appointed
- Enosh Mortal
- Kenan Sorrow
- Mahalalel the blessed God
- Jared Shall come down
- Enoch Teaching
- Methuselah His death shall bring
- Lamech Despairing
- Noah Comfort
“Man (is) appointed mortal sorrow. The blessed god shall come down teaching his death shall bring (the) despairing comfort.”
This could only logically be referring to Ye’Shua because Hebrew would not believe their God would come down and die to bring comfort to the despairing.
There is a list of names, and a hidden prophecy in Genesis 4 too.
Chapter 4) Genesis 4 – Qa’yin
- Cain Acquired
- Enoch Teaching
- IRAD Wild ass, or dragon
- Mahujael Destroy
- Methsael Man of God
- Lamech Despairing
- Jabal Flowing or bringing
- Jubal Flowing or bringing
- TubalCain Cain’s Earth
“Acquired teaching (to) Wild ass/Dragon (that) destroyed Man of god. The despairing (is) bringing Cain’s Earth.”
Cain’s bloodline has an acquired teaching… he refers to this dragon as a wild ass. And these descendants are bringing Cain’s Earth. Who is the Wild Ass… or the dragon? I will save that for another chapter… but I hope I have proven my case that Cain’s descendants were not all wiped out in the flood. The bloodline is alive and well believe they are bringing the Earth and that the Earth is theirs. Tubal-Cain. Cain’s Earth. That behavior, traits, and belief system matches Islamist ideology. Interestingly just as Genesis 4 ends and there is no further mention of Cain of his descendants, Islamists believe God does not speak to man. After Cain… it’s true. God never spoke to that bloodline again even though they exist.
They live to the east. In today’s terminology we refer to them as the “Eastern World”. They surround Israel and because they believe it is Cain’s earth. They will lie, murder, and do whatever it takes, “From the river to the sea!”, and believe they will be rewarded. The more they kill, the greater the reward in heaven (exponentially).
In closing, if the “bad seed” was eliminated, why did it reappear in the first generation after Noah?
The Answer: Noah and Namaah are the perfect mix of good seed and bad seed. All seeds before them which were either one or the other, and were eliminated in the great flood so only the mixed seed remained to populate the Earth.
It is ALWAYS good to know what the adversary thinks.
Islamic Tradition:
The Persian historian Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (c. 915) recounts that Japheth’s wife was Arbasisah, daughter of Marazil, son of al-Darmasil, son of Mehujael, son of Enoch, son of Cain; that Ham’s wife was Naḥlab, daughter of Marib, another son of al-Darmasil; and that Shem’s wife was Ṣalib, daughter of Batawil, another son of Mehujael. He says Noah’s wife was Amzurah, daughter of Barakil, another son of Mehujael.
Mehujael was also a descendant of Cain.
Islam/Muslim believe Cain’s seed persevered on Noah’s ark.
Hebrew/Jewish believe Cain’s seed persevered on Noah’s ark.
Why don’t Christians?